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Lenny Dee – Hard Electronic Interview Series

Techno and Hardcore pioneer Lenny Dee started Industrial Strength Records in 1991 and put New York and American Hardcore on the map, Now on the heels of the labels 25th anniversary, ISR is touring the world with a crew of hardcore artists from all over. The tour hits the US this week with stops at Union in LA Friday, November 18 and The Paper Box in Brooklyn Saturday, November 19. We got a chance to talk to a few of the artists on the lineup, including label founder Lenny Dee about the event and the history of Industrial Strength.

THD: What inspired you to start Industrial Strength records?

I was already producing a lot of music and it became a natural progression. I wanted to inspire more artists to create Hard Electronic Music and I felt this music needed a place to grow and be heard. On my travels DJing, I also went on the hunt to seek out the most hardest electronic music I could muster up. Looking back – I did.

THD: What initially attracted you to hardcore and the harder styles of dance music? What is your favorite part of hardcore music and/or the hardcore scene?

It came from within me really. There was no hard electronic music before (maybe some gothic Ebm tracks, – if you could even find them). I made sets picking odd tracks, b-sides anything and everything and played them all back to back in my sets. I’d been doing sets all around the globe since the 80s man, so all the music i produced and mixed to this point lead me down a path as i grew as a DJ and a producer and then A&R.

What I was feeling the people were feeling. It was like magic. I grew as the feeling grew. This shit was new..

I wanted to explore electronic music to the max and have made and had hits in most major styles. Creativity lead to genres of music being realized. We made the music, and then it was called something, Techno for example….we did not go in the studio to make a ‘certain style’ — it just was. I wound up and the end of the road and stayed when I hit hardcore, but I still always look at the future.

THD: What was the hardcore and harder styles scene in America like before you started ISR? How has it changed in the last 25 years?

There was nothing here in the start of the 90’s. Frankie Bones was doing some parties at that time and we had also created club nights prior to ISR. We were pushing electronic music sounds to NYC which at that time no one cared about it.

The music was not Hard Electronic though. It become the essence of what was to come for me later on, but as I think back, it was hard for the time. Bones and I really broke down doors for NYC and this Country as a whole. No one here really realizes how much Europe actually looked to us as the leaders in electronic music. We have a earned a large place in electronic music history (they might even recognize that one day ) But here we are 25 years – still kicking ass !

THD: What is your favorite subculture or sub-genre of hardcore/hardstyle that has emerged since you started playing and producing hardcore?  

I love all styles of music in fact & listen to a vast range of things. What I play is my choice. I love to be excited by the music and play it like no other. I so like crossbreed. I think its hard edge drum n bass flavor with tight Hard electronic elements really is great new addition to Hard electronic music. It furthers the expansion of both styles while forging ahead with new music ideas pushing the growth of something new, which is a good thing no matter how you look at it.

Some styles of music are more like a description not a really a style (like ‘Techno’ is a style) and are set up with simple arrangements so an amateur can play it well. I like a challenge when I play. But I try not to diss any styles, it’s whatever people dig.

THD: What is your favorite memory from your years with ISR?

I had Laurent Garnier over to my place in Brooklyn. Laurent and I go way back, so we tried to make a track in the short time we had to work. Believe it or not we made a track on my Ruff Beats label ! It was fun and unexpected, we made a simple track, but the experience was over the top to have Laurent over in in Bensonhurst Brooklyn the home of Saturday Night Fever.  We rented a house off 86th St.  next to Lenny’s Pizza – that where Travolta ate the two slices of pizza doubled up in the start of the film.

THD: What are you most excited about for the Hard Electronic 25th anniversary shows? 

I am super chuffed to celebrate that we have been here this long !  Not many can say this in the USA, especially being we created a style of music. I think we are one of (if not the) longest running Electronic labels in the USA now.

I am excited to do this party in NYC and LA. Trauma Live have been great to deal with on the West Coast and we could not have done it without them & Rave Till Dawn. And of course our crew in Brooklyn – Distort the 909 & Kontaminated Recordings – have rocked this (w/ support from Audio Havok from the east coast too). And needless to say, I couldn’t do any of it without my partner Jules who makes it all happen, incl running the ISR and our Labels etc etc.

We’ve also made ISR25 parties in Vienna (Mechanizm), Tokyo (SuperBad Midi Breaks), Glasgow (Sector Events), Fukishima (DarkRave), showcase at ‘Radikal Styles Festival in Colombia, and have a leg in Paris with Audiogenic this Dec. These collabs are exciting and the responses have been off the chain.

‘Hard Electronic’ is a night we will do more of showcasing new & established artists, from all styles of hard electronic music. One party with all different sounds to excite the brain and body in one room. We are already talking line ups for the next one (and tour coming soon too). Get ready boys n girls – the Brooklyn Monster has woken up !

Lenny will be djing both American dates alongside heavy hitters like Unexist, Art Of Fighters, The Sickest Squad, Tymon, Rob Gee and many more. In his spare time he also has been mixing an album for up and coming artist Pop Criminal.

 ISR just released ISR 100 on vinyl as well as collaborations with Akira, Mr Madness, Jason Little, Nuke, DJ Terror and many more for the 25 Years of Industrial Strength compilation coming out this December. 

Producers keep an eye out for a new studio pack to help new and seasoned producers make original hard kick drums, featuring over 300+ bass drums and 30+ ISR artist kits.

The EDC You Didn’t See

Just when you thought you knew about everything that happened at EDC this year, we bring you the most overlooked, but perhaps most exciting development that happened under everyone’s nose. Fortunately, former Earache USA whirlwind and now ANOMIEdia’s CEO, Jim Welch, was on hand to give us the eyewitness account of what went down.

Lenny Dee and Rob Gee at EDC
Lenny Dee and Rob Gee at EDC – photo by Jim Welch

It was a big year for the harder styles at Insomniac’s Electric Daisy Carnival. A stocked hardstyle line-up and a closing set on the Basscon: Wasteland stage by hardcore power Angerfist attested to the magnetic draw of the hard electronic. But there was another significant disruption of the status quo that went practically unnoticed even by the tea-leaf readers and crystal ball gazers who make a career out of divining Insomniac’s next moves…

Rob Gee rocking EDC hard!
Rob Gee rocking EDC hard! -photo by Jim Welch

Calliope was the Greek Muse of heroic poetry, and puttering along the Las Vegas Motor Speedway’s terra firma on EDC Day 2 was the apt-named Kalliope Art Car. This otherwise cute and unassuming converted bus actually packs a 70,000 watt sound system, and this night carried three old school legends that have steadfastly dedicated themselves to furthering the art of the rave. These heroes have continued to promote new and underground music ceaselessly for decades and were seemingly snuck into the party in the dead of night… a portent of things to come? I speak in order of appearance, Lenny Dee, Rob Gee, and Frankie Bones.

Lenny Dee lays down the hard electronic at EDC.
Lenny Dee lays down the hard electronic at EDC. – photo by Jim Welch

Despite the old school credibility all three of these artists bring to the table and their bona fide historical significance to the American rave scene going back to the early 1990’s, they have been surprisingly absent from the larger American festivals. In some ways, it might be because they still have never slowed down. Each has in his own way, like true artists, continued to pursue their art. So, they didn’t really fit into EDC’s usual “old school” area, the Upside Down Room, and were still a little too edgy for Basscon or Bassrush. Enter: Kalliope! and kudos to Insomniac for figuring out how to bring these guys to the attention of a new breed of ravers.

That said, I, like many of you, was stuck in the massive traffic jam that night and missed this part of the rave I wanted to hear and see most. As most of us didn’t have the privilege of following the Art Cart, we have tried our best to recreate the experience for you. Check out Jim Welch’s recount, and we’ve posted a re-creation of Lenny Dee’s set that he made for us. Frankie Bones actually managed to record his set, and we hope to get something from Rob Gee soon. At the end is my interview with Frankie Bones preceding the fateful night. Enjoy and look to the midnight horizon!

Satronica Interview

Satronica

How’d you get into DJing/Producing Hardcore?

I got into Hardcore mainly through Oliver Chesler who was a big part of Industrial Strength (as Temper Tantrum) who currently uses the name The Horrorist. I went to college and became friends with his younger brother. I graduated in 96 so after school that meant in 97-98 his brother was playing me a lot of early Industrial Strength stuff like Disciples of Annihilation and Temper Tantrum (which Oliver was a part of) as well as the DJ Skinhead stuff. At the time I was playing in a lot of bands, doing a lot of work with the Akai MPC, tape loops, guitars, drums, and just doing a lot of experimental music in general. When Alex (the brother) introduced me to Oliver, who at the time had started Things To Come Records, because of the music stuff I was doing he asked me to play live with him and then after that I started to do production and got very into that kind of music – the Things to Come sound. Then as we started to play out live in Europe I began to see some of the shows that were going on there, like Mysteryland, the Thunderdome stuff, some of these giant parties in Europe. I actually saw Lenny Dee play there and then I met Lenny Dee and even though he lived in Brooklyn like I did, I think I got to know him first in Italy. I saw him play with Jappo who’s now Unexist at the Number One Club back in the day and at Club Florida and then I saw Lenny Dee play at Club Cocorico. It’s over in Rimini Italy. It’s was a pretty amazing show and it was unbelievable the way the club responded to Lenny DJing. And on the spot I said wow, this is pretty cool. I would love to be able to do something like this. And he basically told me, “Yeah, when you come back to New York, we’ll hook up and I’ll teach you how to DJ the way I learned and I’ll show you what my method is.” And then he taught me how to d.j, and that’s how I got into DJing. I started to be drawn to the harder sounds at that point. It reminded me a lot of what I grew up with, loving punk rock and early Industrial (EBM) and that sort of thing. And from there Lenny and Oliver really encouraged me with my production and that’s how I got into the production and DJing and into Gabber, Hardcore techno and that sort of stuff.

I heard you brought Hardcore to Colombia, can you tell us about that?

Yeah, it’s true as far as I know. I mean – I can’t say I “brought” it there. I was just one of the first foreign artists to play hardcore there. So the story is: Luis aka DJ Sonico who’s from Bogota – Sonico is his name for hard techno, and Sonicore is his name for Hardcore. He’s a big DJ in Colombia, pretty legendary. Anybody in Colombia will know who this guy is. He’s an amazing DJ. He is responsible for introducing a lot of sounds into Colombia. What he told me was he was in Europe and he was asking about some more underground sounds – records that they had there. Midtown Records gave him a copy of one of my first albums, which was Satronica on Apocalypse Recordings. And apparently he took that back to Colombia and started playing it and getting a good response. So then later he got in touch with me and we started talking. And eventually I did a remix for one of his tracks. And then eventually he booked me to play down there. And when I went down I played half hard techno and half Hardcore. I don’t think the people were necessarily used to Hardcore, but they got into it. It was funny, they weren’t into the anthem-y hardcore stuff but they loved the hard techno. Since they loved hard techno that’s why I started with that and then I went into the Hardcore and I think they were very much more into the Industrial Hardcore stuff over any Mainstyle tracks. At that time (2007) a lot of people were playing hard techno along with the Industrial Hardcore. At the time Waldhaus, Tymon, and Stormtrooper were collaborating a bunch on  mashups of those different sounds. Anyway, then I was booked there again. I played by myself. And the next year I was booked and came with Lenny Dee. And then the next year was booked with Lenny Dee and Jappo (Unexist). And then year after that eventually did a show with Lenny Dee, Unexist and Sickest Squad and I think from there they started to see that Hardcore could do quite well there and then you started to see artists like Art of Fighters to Angerfist to Lady K8 and these types of people playing down in Colombia. I was the first artist as far as I know, from abroad to get booked in Colombia for Hardcore though and then it took off from there. Colombia is amazing. I can’t even begin to tell you the stories from some of those shows – way too surreal.

What kind of music inspires you?

I grew up liking diverse kinds of music. I listen to anything from early Industrial (EBM) kind of stuff like Front 242, Ministry, the different kind of music that was coming out on Wax Trax, X Marks the Pedwalk, all of these kinds of bands along with the Misfits, the Ramones, etc. And I think that’s why I got into Hardcore in the first place was because of all of that early punk rock kind of stuff I had been into. And when I was growing up, when I was much younger, I don’t know – people were not as cliquish about music. There was this one nice moment then that you didn’t necessarily have to be a punk or a skater or just a Goth or just a this, or just a that. People would listen to all these things at the same time. You’d have one mix tape and it might have Front 242, and it might have Bad Brains on it at the same time. It might have Dead Kennedys along with Skinny Puppy and that sort of thing. Along with like Depeche Mode. I wasn’t really a Raver in the beginning so a lot of people came at this stuff from some of the Techno things that were going on that they had heard coming out of Detroit or some of the House music coming out of Chicago and that sort of stuff. When I heard Hardcore though, it reminded me a lot of early really dirty Industrial (EBM), it had the spirit of Punk Rock where you could really take music from any other genre and kinda bastardize it into the Hardcore sound. I think that’s what inspired me then led me towards Hardcore and Gabber and any kind of music that has some sort of soul to it, or has some sort of emotion to it, or is raw. Anything from like Johnny Cash to Willie Nelson to all of the bands I previously named, Indie bands like Pavement or a wide variety of bands that I love or inspired me that kind of brought me to the place that I am at now which is producing some of this rawer more Industrial Hardcore, or to the new label that I’ve been working on which is slightly more accessible Hard Dance.

What are the five Hardcore songs that have really inspired you?

The Mover “Over Land and Sea.” Hard Creation, “I Will Have That Power.” Claudio Lancinhouse and The Stunned Guys “Atmosfera.” Euromasters “Alles Naar Klote” is one of the tracks that inspired a lot of the Hardcore and Speedcore that came out of New York, which inspired DJ Skinhead “Extreme Terror” which would be another song that has changed my life. And if there was a sixth one it would be  Art of Fighters “Hardcore Makes The World Move.” And if you want my main Hardcore influences after that it’s obviously Lenny Dee, Horrorist, Tymon, Unexist and the entire Industrial Strength catalog. I could literally name a million more artists and DJ’s who created the hardcore scene – Manu le Malin, Marc Acardipane, DJ Delirium, 3 Steps Ahead. If only there was enough time to name them all!

Also want to talk a bit about the future and the USA scene in general and what inspires me now. The Europeans are obviously masters of the hardcore sound but I’m inspired that DJ Treachery, CIK, and Cap, to name a few, are starting to make a name for themselves in the US scene. Having artists produce hardcore in the USA is something we sorely need more of!

What are some of your favorite places to play?

Of course I love to play Scotland, the energy there is amazing. The Arches Club there, it was a great experience. I love playing Colombia. It’s great energy there as well. Italy of course and I’ll never forget playing Sala Due at The Number One Club. That was an amazing experience. Then of course playing in Holland is amazing for the crowds there who come from all over the world for festivals like Dominator. Dominator especially, is an amazing experience. I feel blessed to have been able to play there. And the list goes on. I love all of the places I’ve been to, Spain obviously too. Those are the ones that really stick out in my memory. And of course Minneapolis (Yeah Jared Hanson!)

What was the scene like in New York in the beginning and again now?

I think the scene in New York is changing. Hardcore now is becoming acceptable for the younger kids through Hardstyle. I think the Hardstyle scene is really taking off in New York. Some of the E.D.M. music is becoming a little bit more raw, more hard. I think people here are starting to understand the differences between electronic music and that it’s not all just the same thing called techno, just like rock people understand that bands play everything from Folk to Heavy Metal, people are now starting to understand the differences between Hard Techno, Hardcore, Dubstep, etc. versus some of the slower varieties, more accessible varieties. And things are starting to pick up again, because of the impact of Hardstyle. Now people are starting to gravitate to some of the harder stuff. I think that there was definitely a lull for awhile in New York for Hardcore. I don’t think that the Industrial Hardcore or Speedcore that’s popular in Europe is very popular at all in New York City. I think it has to be the more anthemic mainstyle stuff for the people here to really get into it. And I guess it’s changed from the beginning of Hardcore here when there were some larger parties in New York in the late 90’s, early 2000’s where you would hear the more Gabber sound, you’d hear The Horrorist, the Lenny Dee stuff. You’d hear the Rob Gee stuff. The early Delta 9 stuff. I think one of the good things is that the drugs have changed. In the early New York scene there was a lot of dust. You’d be smelling it at a lot of events and that made people a little bit crazy. And people got a little violent. And I think that for the most part venue owners decided that they didn’t want to deal with it. It became very hard to find venues at a certain point that would actually allow Hardcore Techno to be played. They really didn’t accept the concept of electronic music that was that fast with people moshing to it, it didn’t make sense to them. The early vitality in the mid/late 90’s started to die because of the things that I’ve mentioned, but I see it picking up again through the younger kids getting into Hardstyle and into the more anthemic mainstyle Hardcore.

How’d you come up with the name Satronica?

It’s a combination of Satanic I guess and Electronica. It’s because when I was younger I was obviously into Metal and have those sort of metal satanic tattoos etc and it just sounded like a cool combination of words and I actually used it for my aol messnger screen name on my computer to be honest. Then when I started to produce, I went to think up a name to use and just couldn’t think of anything better so, I just decided to use that and stuck with it.

Okay, now what are you planning next?

I’ve been working on a label called Kontaminated Recordings (Click here for link.) with Jeremy Malvasia also known as DJ Delirium. It’s a sublabel of Industrial Strength. And what we are trying to do is make  make music that is hard E.D.M., has the spirit of the some of the Hardcore and Hardstyle, but has a little bit different tempo. It’s 128 to 130 b.p.m. but with the spirit of Hardcore It’s slightly more accessible for some of the kids in the United States than Hardcore is and so we are pushing that a bunch. We have releases out already and the next release will be myself and Jeremy which we’re really excited about. Also I’ve been doing a lot of collaborations with some European hardcore artists so soon you’re gonna hear a collaboration with me and Unexist, then another with Unexist, Art of Fighters and myself coming up soon. Then with Unexist and Noize Suppressor and myself which is coming out soon. And I think a little further out soon you’ll hear one with Unexist and Crypsis and myself. So as far as hardcore I’m currently just working on collab’s, and doing a bunch of vocals for European Hardcore artists. In the works though, are a bunch of work with American Hardcore artists. I’m 100% behind trying to push the sound now in the United States. So look out for a few surprises with the up and comers in the US scene!

By Jake Allen

HellNegative Interview: Gabberfest 2016

Back from the dead, it seems! Anthony Alonso, drum and bass connoisseur from Las Vegas, Nevada, has been out of commission for the last three years taking care of business (literally) only to come back to his beloved scene with the same amount of force and ruthlessness he had when he first departed! HellNegative is back on the decks and is ALREADY playing all over the west coast (read up on his comeback show in San Bernardino, CA HERE!) and is making his first appearance this year at America’s hardest: GABBERFEST, June 18th-19th (EDC Weekend)!

Founder of Dead Kaos, and co-founder of Bassline Syndicate Records, representing Nevada, this is HellNegative!

How did you decide on your stage name?

My religion is the empty space between sounds. The way those spaces are placed creates music. When I produce, I imagine what my heaven would be like through sound. Thus leading to the development of the name HellNegative. It makes sense when you take the phrase literally.

How did you start producing/DJ’ing?

My older brother was listening to electronic music at a young age, so this introduced me to it at an even younger age! I fell in love with his hard house and DNB mixtapes. I decided at the ripe old age of 13 to get my hands on an Electribe ER1 and an EA1. It was all downhill from there.

How did you get interested in the harder styles?

I had always enjoyed rocking out to Delta 9 and DJ Tron, but it wasn’t until my first visit to Dr. Freecloud’s in Los Angeles that the addiction began. Living in Ohio at the time, there was no access to a decent record shop. Of course I dug out some Underground Construction and Nervous Rekkids, but it was the speedcore that I loved the most. I picked up pretty much every Industrial Strength and Drop Bass record they had in the store.

You said that when you returned from your hiatus that you returned to a “scene that was in shambles”. Can you elaborate on this?

Well when I left, things were small, but the only real drama was between sounds of the underground and area170 (which sadly closed its doors). Multi genre parties were still a thing. Although every crew had their differences, we all worked together as a family. When I came back, the DNB scene had grown greatly. I was excited for that, but it seemed to drown out everything else. There’s this separation between the DNB scene and the 4×4 scene. I never see any of the 4×4 promoters at the DNB events and vice versa.

So, what changes have you noticed in your local rave/hard dance scene since you started? How do you feel upon your return?

Hard dance and hardcore have not gotten enough love in Vegas. The unfortunate reality of permit issues and the club scene have made it hard for the smaller promoters to put together successful events. Things have been slowly changing this year, though. 2016 is going to see a huge underground revival. Even as I write this sitting in the dirt at Further Future two strangers have commented positively on the breakcore blasting from my phone.

HellNegative, representing Nevada at Gabberfest 2016!
HellNegative making his first appearance after a three year absence at March Madhouse, San Bernardino, CA.

What do you think about the current state of harder styles in America?

With Drum N Bass becoming so mainstream as of late, the harder sounds are starting to become the real sound of the underground.

What are you trying to convey through your music? Are there any themes or ideas that are important to you?

I think setting boundaries and rules limits yourself. My production has one main focus. That is to create something I can rock out to in my living room, bedroom, car, and venue. There is way more meaning to enjoying music with others because it’s something you truly enjoy.

Do you have anything special planned for the event?

I’ve been spending a lot of time producing a set for Gabberfest. Every tune will either be produced or remixed by myself. All styles of core will be represented, but the focus will be on speedcore, breakcore, and industrial hardcore.

What can we expect from HellNegative in the future?

Between DNB and Hardcore, I’ve been super busy in the studio and less focused on bookings. To the Vegas family, keep your eyes out. We will be working to grow the hard dance and hardcore scenes. Remember to always enjoy the music you listen to not because it’s popular, trending, fashion, or you’re afraid to say you like something else. Listen to it because you love it. Never be afraid to express your love!

You can catch HellNegative at The Bradley in Vegas on May 28th for Propaganda! Be sure to follow him everywhere else you go and look out for the DNB heat at GABBERFEST!

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Tymon – Rituals of Distortion: Chapter 1 – Track Review

Released last month as the 100th release for New York based hardcore record label Industrial Strength Records, industrial demon Tymon has put out what I consider so far as THE best hardcore release of 2016. Slow, eerie, crunchy, everything that the Aussie has become famous for is featured in this three-track release. ‘Crunch Time’ is the top track (you’ll notice right away), but both ‘Fade to Black’ and ‘Instakill’, which both feature a slower kick and a simpler sound design, are still produced and mastered with the upmost quality! And the fact that this is released as a “chapter 1”, I certainly hope this means that another release from this man is coming up in the near future, perhaps just as astounding.